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– Staged suicides, demonization and set ups are just part of the way that CIA and those responsible for 9-11 continue to cover their tracks. In an interview with the Voice of Russia ex-NSA analyst Wayne Madsen discusses the staged suicide of the late 9-11 author and pilot Philip Marshal and the ties of the Bush family to the CIA and 9-11. Mr. Madsen connects the dots of all of the facts in a way that no one else can and the result is a damning picture of an out of control government run by an illegal and criminal network of evil-doers who will stop at nothing to protect themselves and their amassed power and wealth. From ties to Nazi gold, and a family fortune based on it to positions in the CIA, Madsen details some of the connections that the Bush clan has with the introduction of American fascism.

This is John Robles, I’m speaking with Mr. Wayne Madsen, he is the editor of the Wayne Madsen Report in Washington DC. This is part 3 of an interview in progress. You can find the previous and following parts of this interview on our website at voiceofrussia.com.

PART 1, PART 2

Robles: You’ve done a lot of work towards 9-11, I think. Before we got on the air here, you told me a little something about something that happened to you in California. Would you care to speak about that?

Madsen: Yeah, when I was in the Navy I used to handle issues like contingency planning, continuity of government, continuity of operations – these are all operations basically how to react to a fifteen-minute warning that a Soviet cruise missile submarine somewhere off the coast of the United States near Bermuda launched its nuclear tipped missiles at Washington DC. That means fifteen minutes to react. Now, most people, you know, basically – what are you going to do in 15 minutes, except sayyour prayers.

It was very hard for me to believe that within a few-hour period on September 11, 2001 that the entire system, that I remembered would alert national command authorities and so forth and so on on any type of incident, would have just collapsed like that, in almost like a cascading series of events.

After the shock of 9-11 wore off, which was probably about a day, I started looking into it and things didn’t add up, so that is why I became a skeptic. I was a skeptic. Like I say, within 24 hours I was very skeptical of what I was hearing. You know, the story that was being… like the Kennedy assassination, anybody with a half an ounce of the intelligence would not believe the WarrenReport. Likewise I didn’t believe the 9/11 report, now neither do the two authors –Governor Kean and Lee Hamilton don’t believe their own report either.

Robles: Now you just put those two events together and I myself, I believe they are connected in a way. The same people who got away with the Kennedy assassination and were behind project Northwoods, and they have been in the background all this time. I think there might be a connection between 9-11, it was almost the same type of operation as Northwoods, only the scale was different. Do you give any credence to that theory?

Madsen: Oh certainly, because if you agree with, as I believe, that one of the people present, standing there at the front door of the Texas School Book Depository looking right down at the grassy knoll and I was …

Robles: George Bush.

Madsen: George Bush. And George Bush’s son, who was President of the United States,George Bush Senior,was meeting earlier that day in Washington DC, that’s talking about 9/11 (7-11), with people of the Carlyle Group including a cousin of Osama bin Laden at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington. So here we have the same family – the Bush family.

And what else doesthe Bush family have their fingerprints on? Everything that came in between, every major scandal: Watergate, the October surprise that drove Jimmy Carter out of office, and later Iran-Contra. You know, their fingerprints are on everything.

So, the two bookends, if you want to look at them as bookends for American fascism, the introduction of an American fascist state: the Kennedy assassination of’63 and 9-11 in 2001, and every little thing that helped keep the momentum going- Watergate, October surprise and Iran-Contra. There are a few other scandals you can throw in there, but they are the major ones.

Robles: You talked about Bush being outside the Book Depository. Are you sure that was him? Because there have been arguments. All I’ve seen is pictures on the Internet and stuff. It looks like it could be him, maybe it is not. Are you sure?

Madsen: Yeah, I’m pretty certain because Bushwas checked in that day; he was checkedinto the Sheraton Hotel in Dallas, and his wife Barbara Bush, who I don’t think should be believed necessarily, she claims that her husband was speaking at some sort of, I think a Kiwanis club meeting or something like that in Tyler, Texas.

Well, Tyler, Texas is pretty far from Dallas. So, why would you be booked into the Dallas Sheraton and be speaking in a town almost near to the Louisiana state line. It makes no sense.

But of course, the Bush family we know…you know,they’re great believers in what Hermann Goering said; “…if you tell the lie long enough, people start to believe it.” They are masters of that, they’ve been masters of that through generations; from Prescott to George H.W., to George W. and all the other siblings. Their stock-in-trade is the “Big Lie” and they’ve always had Wall Street and the media basically go along with it.

Robles: Do you know anything about… there was an FBI report that day and George Bush, he actually called in a report on…(now this came out eventually, it was an FBI report where George Bush, he put himself in the location) but he called in a report about a suspicious character or something trying to pin it on somebody. Do you know anything about that report?

Madsen: Yeah, that was a report, George Bush, I think it was identified as George Bushof the CIA,talking about a guy named, with the last name of Parrot. And yeah, and it just shows that Bush had a relationship with the CIAin 1963 and was present in Dallas.

Now later they were trying to… again you get back into the Bush “Big Lie”, later they said: “Oh there was another George Bush in the CIA”. But they looked… Yes there was, there was a guy named George Bush, but he worked at the National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC) in Washington DC. This is a group that analyzes satellite photos, Soviet missile sites and stuff.

So, what in the world would that George Bush have anything to do with anything going on in Dallas or Houston or anywhere else?

Robles: Or Zapata Oil.

Madsen: Yeah, he had a different kind of job, he was a low-level photographic, and that doesn’t explain who this other George Bush was down in Dallas. Of course, that’s because it was the George Bush, who was the 41st President of the United States.

Robles: Back to what happened to you in California, about a pilot, you said you wanted to investigate…

Madsen: Yeah, I read that a … and I didn’t even know this guy and I’d not read his books. I may have met… in retrospect I realized I’d probably met him at a 9-11 Conference in New York City which was held on the 10th anniversary in 2011.

Anyway, his name was Philip Marshal, he wrote two books on 9-11. He was this Boeing 757 and Boeing 767 pilot for United. He was a very good pilot. He had previously flown for Eastern, before they went out of business. He was originally from New Orleans, and he wrote these two books and he questioned the whole 9-11 Commission.

He looked at it like, from as a pilot. You know, these planes made maneuvers that a pilot couldn’t do. I mean, he knows these planes, and he was I would say one of the top pilots for United on those two aircraft. And he also, before he wrote those two books, he wrote a book called Lakefront Airport,and that was about his time, it’s a novel, but it was really about his time flying a guy namedBarry Seal around. And Barry Seal was also an ex-Eastern pilot who went to work for the CIA. There is also a connection between Barry Seal and the people who killed John Kennedy because he was a member of this Committee of Forty which was people in the CIA like E. Howard Hunt, Felix Rodriguez and others, Ted Shackley, the Blond Ghost they called him. So, he was involved with those people.

And then later he became a contract pilot for the CIA and was flying weapons to the Contras. But he got nailed in some drug stuff. The DEA and the CIA have never gotten along, because theyare always usually firing guns at each other, because they had two missions.

The CIA’s mission was to import drugs illegally into the United States to get money for its… you know slush money for its off the book operations. And that’s what the late Gary Webb had written about, who lived in California. And of course they attacked him and they said he committed suicide. You know, two bullets through the head – that’s hard to do. You know, one missed and he has to shoot… you know, that’s hard to do. I never bought the Gary Webb suicide story either…

Robles: They said he shot himself twice in the head?

Madsen: Yes, that’s what they said.

Robles: Like the kid in, the MI6 guy in the UK, who was going to expose stuff to WikiLeaks and they found him locked inside of a duffle bag. Do you remember that one?

Madsen: Yes, inside of a gym bag. He had locked himself in which even Harry Houdini couldn’t have done under those circumstances.

Robles: So, what happened with this guy in California please?

Madsen: OK, they said Philip Marshal shot his two teenage kids, his 17-year-old son and his daughter who was about 13 years or something, and then he shot his little pet shih tzu dog, and then he turned the MAC-10 on himself, it is a semiautomatic weapon.

They found the bodies and the sheriff said: “Oh, yes, instantaneous suicide”. But the sheriff wanted the house cleaned up before the forensic investigation was over with, which as anybody who knows anything about crime scene investigation…

Robles: What do you mean he wanted the house cleaned up?

Madsen: Well he actually was looking for a cleaning crew, a commercial cleaning crew to come into the house and clean up the blood stains and make the house presentable for resale. Meanwhile…

Robles: The sheriff was doing that, he was looking for cleaners?

Madsen: He called, one of the county officials told me, she’d got a call from the sheriff saying: “Do you know…” because this was Super Ball weekend. I should also say that Pill Marshal was a great football fan, especially a fan of the New Orleans Saints, because he was from New Orleans.

Now the Saints weren’t in the Super Ball this past year, but the Super Ball was held in the Saints’ home field, the Super Dome in New Orleans. So, he was telling everybody: “Oh, yes, I can’t wait to see the Super Ball and the Super Dome”.

And so that he supposedly shot himself and his kids, and his dog between Thursday night and Saturday morning, the coroner finally said it was Saturday morning, because that’s when the bodies were found. That’s not a very good, that’s a very bad investigation. But the Super Ball was Sunday.

So, the Sheriff calls a county official on Saturday night and says: “Do you know any cleaning crew that’s working over the weekend that can start cleaning the house up?”.

And she said: “I don’t know, I’ll look around”.

And she found somebody that was willing to work on a Sunday, Super Ball Sunday. And yeah, they came and started cleaning the house. But the crime scene, the investigation was not completed yet, because afterwards there were vehicles at the residence from the state of California, some with the antennas on the roof, you know, these black SUV’s you can’t look into.

That was also, the sheriff said: “This is a local – we are handling this investigation locally, there is no outside involvement”. That was basically put to rest with the fact that state vehicles were there.

And the computer, Phil Marshal’s computer with the copy of whatever he was working on for his third book… he was looking specifically at what is known as the “Boneyard”, the Pinal Airpark, also called Marana is, it is right outside Tucson, Arizona.

Robles: That’s where the Pennsylvanian and the Pentagon planes probably are.

Madsen: Yes Marana, it’s the Marana air field, also known as Pinal Airpark and a lot of CIA stuff goes on there. It was the headquarters for a CIA front called Evergreen International Airlines, which basically took over a lot of the functions of Southern Air Transport. Air America, that was very big during the Vietnam War, and other proprietary airlines: it is all there, it is all there.

So, his computer disappears, I was told it was taken to Sacramento to the computer lab run by the Department of Justice for the State of California. So, there was outside involvement.

The sheriff had continuingly misspoke or basically adds just a nice word that PR people use for lying, and devalues the real word. The sheriff continued to lie about the case, and the case is closed now.

You know “Marshal did it,” you know and they fed it, “… oh, yeah he is one of those 9-11 kooks, you know they do it, they shoot themselves or kids, see how mentally unbalanced, they all are”. So, somebody wanted to shut down his investigation.

But I believe, and I don’t know this for fact because I haven’t picked up where he left off. I think just looking at the “boneyard”, as maybe the source for some of the aircraft of 9-11, because there were 757s and 767s parked there, you know airlines go out of business.

The reason they park them in the desert is because all you’ve got to do is put cowlings over the jet engines, because it is so dry there is no rust and you just got to protect the engines and other airplane parts from the desert sand. I think that’s what he was looking at. At least, that’s what I got from talking to members of his family when I attended his funeral service in Louisiana, which was held about two months afterwards, after his death.

Robles: Back to the place that you are talking about, one more time, where is it exactly? It is called the Boneyard.

Madsen: There are two parts of the Boneyard and people can actually type in boneyard or Marana air field and they’ll see this huge desert, it looks like a parking lot for airplanes of every type, for every era. It is like a museum of aircraft. You’ve got the old DC-3’s and you’ve got the 757’s, 747’s. I don’t know whether any of the Dreamliners are there yet, but given the status of those, they may be there soon. But that’s the civilian part.

Then there is Davis–Monthan Air Force Base which is right next to it and that’s where the military planes are. And then again, that’s like a huge parking lot of every type of military aircraft you can imagine, from the small transports, small jets to the large C-5A’s even.

So, anybody that drives onInterstate 10 past Tucson cannot help but see this thing. I remember seeing it, it was amazing. It is like the airport that never ends. It goes on for miles and miles.

But anyway, that’s what he was interested in, that’s what he was investigating. And he had mentioned that he had been stopped a few times by security when he was in the area, they wanted to know what he was doing there. So, he definitely was sniffing around this facility, and that had to be that he would be suspected.

The only other thing I can say is based on his playing pilot with some of the Iran Contra boys, like I should say Barry Seal, who used to fly for them, he was gunned down in Baton Rouge before he was going to testify about Vice President George H.W. Bush’s involvement in drugs importation, he was gunned down gangland style in Baton Rouge in 1986. And when they’ve looked in the trunk of his car, he had George H.W. Bush’s – the then Vice President – his personal telephone number.

You were listening to an interview with Wayne Madsen – the editor of the Wayne Madsen Report in Washington DC. You can find the previous and following parts of this interview on our website at voiceofrussia.com. Thank you very much for listening and as always I wish you the best, and happy holidays wherever you may be.
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